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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>4 times Jesus <strong><b><font
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something to people<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>eternal life (v. 2)<br>
the word (vv. 8, 14)<br>
the glory (v. 22)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Two “gifts” are used in both lists. God gives Jesus “the word” and “the
glory,” which Jesus then gives to us. Two implications: (1) God is the
source of everything for Jesus and for the faith community; and (2) the
relationship between the Father and the Son as illustrated by the
“giving” Father, is the same relationship between the “giving” Jesus
and the faith community. By extension, we are to follow this pattern
and be giving people – giving others the word and whatever else might
help them receive the eternal life that Jesus wants to give them.<br>
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“WHERE” AS A PLACE OF RELATIONSHIP<br>
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The “where” of Jesus’ prayer in v. 24: “Where I am they also might be
with me,” refers more to the relationship with the Father than being at
a particular place. Where Jesus is and where we are to be is “children”
in relationship with the Father. What this implies is that we are to be
in a relationship to receive what the Father/Jesus wants to give us.<br>
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THE DISCIPLES AND THE WORLD<br>
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The word “world” (κόσμος <em><i><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>kosmos</span></font></i></em>) occurs 11
times in our text (17 times in ch. 17). Three different prepositions
are used in terms of our relationship with the world (κόσμος <em><i><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>kosmos</span></font></i></em>).
The quoted definitions come from Lowe and Nida’s Greek-English Lexicon.<br>
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THE FIRST is <strong><b><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>ἐν
(</span></font></b></strong><em><b><i><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>en</span></font></i></b></em><strong><b><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>)</span></font></b></strong>
(17:11, 11, 13) = “<strong><b><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:
Arial'>in</span></font></b></strong> the world”. Defining ἐν (<em><i><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>en</span></font></i></em>)
as “a position on the surface of an area” and defining <em><i><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>kosmos</span></font></i></em>
as “the surface of the earth,” <em><i><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>en + kosmos</span></font></i></em> seems to
mean: “living on the planet.” We continue to live on planet earth, but
Jesus no longer lives here.<br>
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THE SECOND is <strong><b><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:
Arial'>ἐκ (</span></font></b></strong><em><b><i><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>ek</span></font></i></b></em><strong><b><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>)</span></font></b></strong>
(17:14, 14, 15, 16, 16) = “<strong><b><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>from</span></font></b></strong> the world”.
In vv. 14 & 16 the verb “to be” is used. ἐκ (<em><i><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>ek</span></font></i></em>)
with the verb “to be” can mean “to belong to” as the NRSV translates
it. (The same construction is used in 1C 12:15f about “belonging to” or
“being part of” the body.) ἐκ (<em><i><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>ek</span></font></i></em>) can also refer to
the “source of activity or state”. Neither Jesus nor we are to “belong
to the world” nor “have the world as the source of our activity or
existence.”<br>
<br>
In these cases, I think that the meaning of <em><i><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>kosmos</span></font></i></em> changes. It is
no longer the “surface of the earth,” but one of the following
definitions:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>a. “the system of practices and standards
associated with a secular society (that is, without reference to any
demands or requirements of God)”<br>
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b. “people associated with a world system and estranged from God”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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The “world’s standards” are not to be the source of our existence. We
are separated from the “people of the world”.<br>
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